Why we’re doing poetry right now, and not prose….
Transcript
Hi, everyone. It's been a minute since I've just
Leela Sinha:spoken to you. I tried to record a poem about why we're having
Leela Sinha:poems now. But it didn't really work out. So let me see if I can
Leela Sinha:say what I need to say and not get sidetracked by some weird
Leela Sinha:element of my childhood. Sometimes there are things you
Leela Sinha:can't say in prose. And for me, that's most things, most
Leela Sinha:feelings. The more important it is, the harder it is to put
Leela Sinha:straight into sentences and periods and paragraphs. The
Leela Sinha:first time I remember getting praise for poetry, I was writing
Leela Sinha:about friendship, and it was fourth grade, and Mrs. Litvin
Leela Sinha:who had seen a lot and been through a lot already by the
Leela Sinha:time she was a soft, round gray-haired lady teaching in the
Leela Sinha:suburbs of New York. And she said that it was beautiful. And
Leela Sinha:she put it on the wall. I remember that it was Mrs.
Leela Sinha:Litvin. And not Mrs. Gus from third grade. Because I remember
Leela Sinha:where that yellow piece of paper- you know, that
Leela Sinha:rough-draft, blue lined, newsprint-y paper that we used
Leela Sinha:when we weren't writing the real thing yet. I remember where that
Leela Sinha:yellow piece of paper went on the wall to the left of the
Leela Sinha:classroom door just as you walked in. It was a haiku. They
Leela Sinha:were trying to introduce us to poetry forms. This is back in
Leela Sinha:the day when they thought that was an important thing to teach.
Leela Sinha:I wish they still thought that was an important thing to teach.
Leela Sinha:But I've never liked poetry forms. But I like the way that
Leela Sinha:poetry allowed spaces for the poet and the poem and the reader
Leela Sinha:to interact. It wasn't so pushed, it wasn't so rushed. It
Leela Sinha:wasn't so directive as prose. I have a lot, as you know, a very,
Leela Sinha:a lot of very definite opinions. But I also think that I am only
Leela Sinha:one carrier of opinions and ideas and possibilities. And so
Leela Sinha:I'd rather put what I think in front of you as a sort of a
Leela Sinha:buffet or even like, you know, one of those restaurants where
Leela Sinha:you go and you pick out the ingredients and you give them to
Leela Sinha:the chef, like pick out some ingredients, pick out some ideas
Leela Sinha:from what I'm saying. If you can't figure out how what I
Leela Sinha:said, has to do with business, I want that tangle in your brain
Leela Sinha:to be generative. I want the tangle in your brain to be
Leela Sinha:spacious. I want it to wander around in the crevices between
Leela Sinha:dropoffs and pickups and groceries and doctor's
Leela Sinha:appointments. I want it to eat popcorn in the back left hand
Leela Sinha:corner while you're watching that show that you love and
Leela Sinha:watch with you and comment. I'm less interested in anybody
Leela Sinha:picking up my ideas wholesale than I am in what happens when
Leela Sinha:they become seasonings, or seeds. Mustard seeds, foxtails-
Leela Sinha:I know we don't like foxtails, but also, I'm sitting next to
Leela Sinha:foxtails. Sometimes I feel like clear directive prose is exactly
Leela Sinha:what we need. But more often than that, we have so much
Leela Sinha:clearer directive prose around us. And then so much
Leela Sinha:insidious... something. That thing that some marketers do
Leela Sinha:some of the time, where they create a gap that you naturally
Leela Sinha:fall into because of the way that our brains work. And then
Leela Sinha:they act like it was your choice, which sort of was, but
Leela Sinha:that's not a thing I would call consent. So first, I want you to
Leela Sinha:consent. I want you to consent to play with me in these ways.
Leela Sinha:And then I want you to roll it around your mouth on your
Leela Sinha:tongue, to kick it down the road like a can or a soccer ball, to
Leela Sinha:weave or knit or embroider it into something and see if you'd
Leela Sinha:like to put it together with great long basting stitches; to
Leela Sinha:dig your thumbs in and see if there's a vessel in that lump of
Leela Sinha:mud. It's art, I want it to become part of the art of your
Leela Sinha:life. And I think prose is awkward and clumsy for that. Not
Leela Sinha:always,
Leela Sinha:I think there's a place for prose. And there's beautifully
Leela Sinha:crafted prose out there, my god. But I like the uncertainty of
Leela Sinha:poetry. I like the ambiguity of poetry. I like the way that
Leela Sinha:images and pieces of your life that feel completely unrelated
Leela Sinha:can overlap and run together. Because that makes it easier for
Leela Sinha:pieces of my life to overlap and run together with pieces of your
Leela Sinha:life, and pieces of my thinking to overlap and run together with
Leela Sinha:pieces of your thinking, and vice versa. I want your thinking
Leela Sinha:to overlap and run together with mine. I want to have places and
Leela Sinha:ways and structures that that can happen. And I'm not sure
Leela Sinha:that those places and ways and structures are necessarily are
Leela Sinha:even usually encased in the structure of prose. Language is
Leela Sinha:an incredible tool. And they always told me I had to learn
Leela Sinha:the rules before I could break them. But I only know the rules
Leela Sinha:intuitively and I break them the same way. And I know that
Leela Sinha:irritates people. But poetry is also the first place where I had
Leela Sinha:to learn not to mind that poetry, and specifically my
Leela Sinha:poetry, is not for everyone. So I'll keep doing prose. I will
Leela Sinha:come back to it. I know myself, I circle through these things, I
Leela Sinha:cycle around; but not just prose and not even necessarily
Leela Sinha:predominantly prose. Sometimes I want the poems to work in a way
Leela Sinha:that you don't know what hit you, and you're not sure how to
Leela Sinha:feel about it. Sometimes I just want a gut punch because I want
Leela Sinha:the world, because the world is such a place right now.
Leela Sinha:Sometimes I want a snippet of beauty. And sometimes I want a
Leela Sinha:complete sentence. So that's what I'm doing. I want to say
Leela Sinha:one more thing. I make this sound like I planned it, I did
Leela Sinha:not. I sat down one day, the way I usually do to record a snippet
Leela Sinha:of an idea, the beginning of a sentence, and it came out as a
Leela Sinha:poem. And it still felt like the right thing to do. And so I
Leela Sinha:posted it. And then I sat down again a few days later, and it
Leela Sinha:still felt like the right thing to do. And so I posted it. And
Leela Sinha:after a while, I had to ask myself "what happened? you were
Leela Sinha:making these prose essays, and now you're making something
Leela Sinha:different?" And so one of the things I learned in seminary is
Leela Sinha:that sometimes it helps to explain. And so I'm explaining
Leela Sinha:as much as I can, I'm explaining why once I figured out what was
Leela Sinha:happening, I didn't stop it. I didn't tell myself that I had to
Leela Sinha:stay in that form of prose, I didn't tell myself I had to stay
Leela Sinha:inside the structure of an essay, I didn't force myself
Leela Sinha:back into that. A large part of that is how intensives work, we
Leela Sinha:can't be forced into a form simply because somebody said so,
Leela Sinha:even if that somebody was ourselves, we need space to do
Leela Sinha:things differently, if that differently has integrity for
Leela Sinha:us, if that differently serves our larger purpose. And so once
Leela Sinha:I noticed what was happening, I went back and took a look. Why,
Leela Sinha:why would this feel right? Why was this working? Why? Why did I
Leela Sinha:suddenly feel freer and more grounded and much more
Leela Sinha:enthusiastic about sharing my podcast? And the answer was
Leela Sinha:because there's a level of authenticity that's available to
Leela Sinha:me in poetry that isn't available to me in prose. And as
Leela Sinha:an intensive, that authenticity is absolutely vital to my pride
Leela Sinha:in my work. So if prose starts to feel like half a lie, I have
Leela Sinha:to do something different. And what is that different thing
Leela Sinha:going to be? In this case, it turns out to be poems. So thanks
Leela Sinha:for being here with me, in my intensive space in my poetry
Leela Sinha:space in my ethics-oriented business space. Thanks for being
Leela Sinha:nimble. Thanks for being curious. Thanks for being wise.
Leela Sinha:Thanks for being creative. Thanks for wondering how it
Leela Sinha:could be with me, and thanks for being with me, in this moment,
Leela Sinha:different. Because this is where the change begins.